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Load Up the Pantry
« on: May 10, 2008, 09:52:10 AM »



Wall Street Journal

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By BRETT ARENDS

Load Up the Pantry
April 21, 2008 6:47 p.m.

I don't want to alarm anybody, but maybe it's time for Americans to start stockpiling food.

No, this is not a drill.

You've seen the TV footage of food riots in parts of the developing world. Yes, they're a long way away from the U.S. But most foodstuffs operate in a global market. When the cost of wheat soars in Asia, it will do the same here.

Reality: Food prices are already rising here much faster than the returns you are likely to get from keeping your money in a bank or money-market fund. And there are very good reasons to believe prices on the shelves are about to start rising a lot faster.

"Load up the pantry," says Manu Daftary, one of Wall Street's top investors and the manager of the Quaker Strategic Growth mutual fund. "I think prices are going higher. People are too complacent. They think it isn't going to happen here. But I don't know how the food companies can absorb higher costs." (Full disclosure: I am an investor in Quaker Strategic)

Stocking up on food may not replace your long-term investments, but it may make a sensible home for some of your shorter-term cash. Do the math. If you keep your standby cash in a money-market fund you'll be lucky to get a 2.5% interest rate. Even the best one-year certificate of deposit you can find is only going to pay you about 4.1%, according to Bankrate.com. And those yields are before tax.

Meanwhile the most recent government data shows food inflation for the average American household is now running at 4.5% a year.

And some prices are rising even more quickly. The latest data show cereal prices rising by more than 8% a year. Both flour and rice are up more than 13%. Milk, cheese, bananas and even peanut butter: They're all up by more than 10%. Eggs have rocketed up 30% in a year. Ground beef prices are up 4.8% and chicken by 5.4%.

These are trends that have been in place for some time.

And if you are hoping they will pass, here's the bad news: They may actually accelerate.

The reason? The prices of many underlying raw materials have risen much more quickly still. Wheat prices, for example, have roughly tripled in the past three years.

Sooner or later, the food companies are going to have to pass those costs on. Kraft saw its raw material costs soar by about $1.25 billion last year, squeezing profit margins. The company recently warned that higher prices are here to stay. Last month the chief executive of General Mills, Kendall Powell, made a similar point.

The main reason for rising prices, of course, is the surge in demand from China and India. Hundreds of millions of people are joining the middle class each year, and that means they want to eat more and better food.

A secondary reason has been the growing demand for ethanol as a fuel additive. That's soaking up some of the corn supply.

You can't easily stock up on perishables like eggs or milk. But other products will keep. Among them: Dried pasta, rice, cereals, and cans of everything from tuna fish to fruit and vegetables. The kicker: You should also save money by buying them in bulk.

If this seems a stretch, ponder this: The emerging bull market in agricultural products is following in the footsteps of oil. A few years ago, many Americans hoped $2 gas was a temporary spike. Now it's the rosy memory of a bygone age.

The good news is that it's easier to store Cap'n Crunch or cans of Starkist in your home than it is to store lots of gasoline. Safer, too.

Write to Brett Arends at brett.arends@wsj.com

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Re: Load Up the Pantry
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2008, 11:52:22 AM »

ever try to eat cap-n-crunch and tuna? blech i prefer salmon with my cap-n-crunch.

Articles like this have done much more than we could ever do in talking to our family and friends, who thought we were "fringe" lunatics, tightwads, misers penny pincher's [I thought being frugal all this time was the right thing to do] or whatever else they thought of us, the really nice thing is now we are asked questions of just how much is enough and how do  you plan meals for a week or three in advance.....

Some folks have picked up JWR's book and built shrines, others have come before and others will follow in the future, awareness of the things that matter most is  important though, like how many calories an individual needs to make it through the winter until next year's crops are planted, harvested and stored for the next year.....

Its funny, just last week the DHS liaison told the city council that if food riots or breakdowns happen of some sort not to expect any trucks in for 6 to 18 months, so now they are trying to figure out how to feed not only the townfolk, but those outside of town who rely on the grocery market daily or weekly, though there are quite a few folks who live around here that store enough for a fe months to a year..... so much so that they are looking into "leasing" ground for community gardening where folks dont have much yard space for growing..... or like me who rent and cant be sure that I will see the harvest if I plant a huge garden [Idaho is kind of lax on it rental policies where there is more than housing space being rented, and no "agricultural lease", as a house in town is residential and a garden is not covered anywhere..... so all i can do is plant the minimum and hope it is mine to harvest this year [the house is for sale]

It is good to see articles that promote rather than discourage people into taking responsibility for their own families being able to eat, drink and live comfortably, without a whole lot of "doom and gloom" as my wife calls it..... though the DHS info has her looking for grants for the city for this community gardening project for the water costs if nothing else..... it is a start here in the land of somewhat plenty.

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« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2008, 02:28:39 PM »

I saw an article in the last few weeks about a group of people urging others to plant gardens now, much the Victory Gardens of WWII. They are trying to get various levels of government to endorse the idea.

Their thought is that if everyone on a street plants a small garden then if worst comes to worst the neighborhood will be able to take care of its own. Sound thinking.

I don't think many people are giving this group much heed, and that includes government.

Leasing out garden space is not a bad idea if you have some extra land.
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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2008, 03:46:25 PM »

I live about 200 yards from where the city is thinking about leasing to the folks and from my vantage point I can see one corner of the acreage, my concern though would be security from those that would decide they did not need to do the work but wanted the benefit of the crops grown, i suppose that is also being taken into consideration for the grant purposes..... I am not sure what type the soil is, as I have not walked over to the lot yet, but it does border a creek  on one side [city does not have a water right to use the creek water though so they cant even consider irrigation via simple methods like a ram pump or solar even]

I figure if it all breaks down and I am still in this house, I am 200 yards from the creek, I have a wagon, an old RV storage tank and a 55 gallon drum as well as a shur-flo 12 volt pump out of that RV, and a solar charger and would only need have a deep cell battery and i could pull up 25 gallons or so at a time and transfer it to the 55 gallon drums to then put out on the garden.... not an easy way of growing things should our local grid go down, but at least its doable.... nope i am not totally prepared for such happening, but I do have auto batteries that willl work just not built for such purpose..... I have one gel 12 volt the rest are lead acid.... but gels are coming down in price too.

So I have a plan though it is not the best at least its doable, the big drawback will still be winter.... we only have diesel heat, even though i have a couple wood stoves in storage I have no way to install them in this house without a whole lot of cutting and more pipe.  We used 300 plus gallons of diesel both the past 2 winters here...... not the best prospective facing us, plus we would need power to run the furnace..... catch 22 electric heat wont work without electric, diesel heat wont work with either electric power or diesel fuel..... we gotta move or get permission to make modifications..... or buy the house and do the mods anyway and not tell the insurance company.... [they frown on wood stoves being nstalled anymore, even if done "properly"

ramblins I know, but someone may get an idea from me once in awhile.... like WOW I never even thought of that yet.   I still want to get into pressing oil seeds, asCanola is grown around here and available as far as I know, and that if done properly would be able to burn in my diesel stove..... cost is higher than the first year return though, and might be higher than several years return, but it is still possible to do a usiness with such as well,,, getting started is the hard part right now.

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« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2008, 03:54:54 PM »

Security is always an issue when other people know about something. And with this project the city is going to trumpet it far and wide.

Short of having a a few million dollars I don't think anyone is truly prepared. All we can do is make the best of what we do have and then have plans for the areas we are lacking in. Even though I am planting a garden and dry packing food my plan is still to leave if things get bad enough. That could be as close as 5 miles away to my girlfriend's fathers or as far as 2000 odd miles. It all depends on what happens.
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Re: Load Up the Pantry (pantry dimensions)
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2009, 03:39:39 PM »

We spoke with the remediation/ recovery contractor yesterday since the house is being repaired. One area of the kitchen, previously walled off (We thought it was part of a structural support, but is not)
We just gained some pantry space in addition to the replacement cabinets. The total space is approximately 28 inches by 30 inches after the drywall gets installed and from floor to top of the space is about 7 feet. This is great news for us, as we have more space for storage and replaces the need for shelving units to a degree in the old 'pantry' area of our home.

Again this is in addition to the existing storage space. With the ability to get this and replace the smoke damaged shelving we were able to add some  40 cubic feet of storage space.


I admit I am looking forward to the challenge of getting that filled over time Smiley

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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2009, 06:55:39 PM »

That's great, Grog. I'm glad something good came of your house woes.
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Re: Load Up the Pantry 2010
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2010, 07:42:57 PM »

I was checking out a few things here and there and with the weather that has hit the Mid west and the South, putting in a green house and growing more vegetables may be a darn good idea. If there are fewer citrus crops this year, there are going to be other crops in limited supply as well.

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