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Grog

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Canning and resources that are possible finite?
« on: November 22, 2008, 10:08:29 AM »

 Most folks know something about canning, and a few have done some nice hands on work this year I am sure.

My question derives from this plausible scenario Over time, with out modern manufacturing methods, the last glass jar breaks, or no more rings or the last seal is used.   I know that there is a risker/ less prefered method of a wax cap over the contents, and one could coat this around the entire mouth of the jar or container.

Next step, How to recover those resources again? Not complaining, but most folks seem to think about a year max idea.

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Re: Canning and resources that are possible finite?
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2008, 01:14:23 PM »

Lids are fairly inexpensive, with current practice being to use once it makes sense to stock up on as many as you can. A standard 5000 sheet paper box will hold a lot of lids, another with rings and you have the most commonly used items. Jars take up more room though. Lids that have been used for wet canning can be reused for dry packing.

Wax has been used in the past, and could be used in the future but care would have to be used. If the choice was to can using wax or let the food spoil then it can't hurt to use the wax, although your spoilage rate may be higher.

Replacing jars would be more difficult.
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Re: Canning and resources that are possible finite?
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2008, 03:25:51 PM »

If this were the case and no glass jars were available, I think we would have to embrace other preservation methods.  I don't see any other long-term canning options that do not involve canning jars (either glass or metal).  Cooking as we need without storing the prepared foods for a long period of time.

If this is the case, I see drying, smoking, brining or pickling separate ingredients (the last two stored in crocks or barrels) replacing canning.  Strawberries could be reconstituted, made into jam, and used fairly quickly (stored in a cool, dark place it could last quite a while).

I really can't think of any viable, long-term option for canning jars.

BTW, and I am not telling anyone to do this (just making a statement), I reuse canning lids all the time.  It depends on the condition of the lid.  Once it gets rusty, dented or the rubber is indented down to the lid, that lid gets tossed. 

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Re: Canning and resources that are possible finite?
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2008, 11:03:21 PM »

What about pottery and heavy waxing? in baskets or pots Ancient , viable grains have been stored, beyond the bark and leaflined pit, sewn end tied and sealed in animal fat. (Check out Larry Dean Olsen's survival skills circa 1970)
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Re: Canning and resources that are possible finite?
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2008, 09:19:31 PM »

I.......
BTW, and I am not telling anyone to do this (just making a statement), I reuse canning lids all the time.  It depends on the condition of the lid.  Once it gets rusty, dented or the rubber is indented down to the lid, that lid gets tossed. 

get a tube of uncurred rubber from the auto parts store...... use your fingert to apply a new daab to the lid and try one...... my friend who passed away last year told me of that years ago, talk about being frugal.....

as for glass, blow your own jars..... build an oven, and learn the process..... it is another thing that aint rocket science..... ok so it might be more than ameture day at the glass works, but shoot what are ya goona do after the coming collapse but sit around and worry abuot what you are gonna do...

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